Boston, Massachusetts, US
Posts: 13
Atomic Bomb Reflections
It is never justifiable to end the lives of large numbers of non-combatants, even when they are part of an enemy nation, because civilians are not responsible for their government’s actions and therefore should not reap the consequences of it. Sometimes it is clear that diplomatic discussions are not going to work. But that doesn’t mean that the only other option is ending thousands of civilian lives. This applies to the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. The article, “Was There a Diplomatic Alternative? The Atomic Bombing and Japan's Surrender” says that, “seven out of eight top U.S. military commanders believed that it was unnecessary to use atomic bombs against Japan from a military-strategic vantage point.” There were other, non atomic, bombs that had already been dropped, a sea blockade, and Japan was on the verge of surrender. The fact that now it is popular belief that the U.S. dropped the bomb to force Japan to surrender and “save half a million American lives” is really just lies/propaganda to cover up the cognitive dissonance of doing something so horrible. Even if one makes the argument that America had to drop the atomic bomb to end the war (which I do not), the government still should have dropped the bomb on a military base or onto equipment. The death and injury of thousands of people who had no say in the atrocities that Japan committed was not justifiable nor necessary to end the war.
While yes, it’s possible that killing non combatants can frighten an enemy state into submission, it can also enrage the enemy state, causing them to lash out more aggressively and violently, or cause a cycle of violence to ensue. For example, Hamas is an unethical terrorist organization and it's very hard for Israel to reason with them. But, violence also certainly does not work. Years of apartheid and violence towards Palestinian civilians has contributed to a cycle of violence and displacement. I believe there are ways to assert dominance and end conflicts without killing civilians, even when dealing with unethical power bases.
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Posts: 13
Reflections on the Ethics of the Atomic Bomb
I am inclined to believe that with the age of atomic weapons there are nearly no circumstances in which usage of the most extreme force available to us would be justified. Utilizing weapons that will cause mass death of civilians dehumanizes individuals of other nations, as it implicitly suggest that all citizens of a nation are complicit in international conflict, even when they are completely removed from influence over declarations of war and may hold opinions that diverge from the official positions of their governments. This creates an environment apt for hatred of civilians on both sides towards those of opposing nations, which further polarizes the global community.
On the level of international relations, I believe, especially currently, the usage of extreme force may not be a deterrent for nations, as nuclear proliferation has caused more nations than ever to possess their own nuclear weapons or become a part of military alliances with nations that have nuclear arsenals. Thus the logic Henry Stimson presented whereby the US was justified in using nuclear force against Japan to stop future death, even if it cost civilian lives, may simply cease to function in the current configuration of the world in which many nations have the power to retaliate with the same force. Seeking out the ability to deal a decisive and crippling defeat to another nation would likely mean developing technology even more destructive than the nuclear weapon, which would put humanity on the track directly opposite to seeking peace that could lead to our ultimate unraveling.
I furthermore do not believe that nuclear weapons are likely to be the best last resort in any conflict, as we have an increasingly developing network of diplomacy channels and a growing understanding of different cultures that allows us to be more conscientious of how to conduct negotiations. In the case of the bombings in Japan, the article Was There A Diplomatic Alternative? The Atomic Bombing and Japan’s Surrender suggests that a surrender may have been reached if the US had offered the emperor of Japan retention of his title under US control before they bombed the nation, as the potential dismantling of the role of emperor was the biggest reason Japan would not accept unconditional surrender terms. Moreover, the maintenance of the emperor’s role was effectively agreed on even after the bombs were dropped, suggesting it was not an inconceivable compromise to be made. Likewise, many modern situations may have diplomatic options that have not yet become exhausted. The difficulty lies in how polarized our world has become and the reality of many world leaders’ inability and unwillingness to conduct discussions with one another, a situation that is not helped by threats of nuclear war and increases likelihood of unjust war and war crimes. A world without war and the use of extreme force is likely an idealistic dream, yet I fear a world in which our automatic reflex is to detonate nuclear weapons and in which civilian life is completely sacrificed.
Boston, Massachusetts, US
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Reflections of the Ethics of the Atomic Bomb (Dinner Table Discussion Part III)
I think there are circumstances that might offer grounds for the use of overwhelming force in war, however I don’t think it can be ethical or even justified, especially if it means the intentional harm of non-combatants. Overwhelming force, such as an atomic bomb, kills thousands of people instantly, and hundreds of thousands of people from after effects such as radiation poisoning. Under no circumstance should the killing of entire cities be permitted, no matter the strategic or political justification. I can understand it more if it were being used to prevent an attack they knew was going to happen. For example, if they know a bomb is going to be used on them, then they might do this as a worst case scenario or to protect a large number of people. While some nations or groups in power might be more deserving than others, overwhelming force goes beyond the people in power and beyond anyone guilty. It harms innocent people including women and children who are living normal lives. I think there will always be other and better ways to “humble” nations and stop hostilities without overwhelming force in war. However, because overwhelming force is used, no nation wants to seem weak or less powerful than the other. This results in overwhelming force being used solely to prove a point. The atomic bomb, for example, hasn’t been used since 1945, yet nine countries have access to nuclear weapons “just in case.” The desire for nations to seem powerful is what drives the use of overwhelming force and it should not be justified under any circumstances.
Boston, Massachusetts, US
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I do not believe that it is ever permissible to use overwhelming force in war because, by the mere nature of the concept, that nation has gone beyond the necessary parameters of their war effort. For example, the US captured the island of Okinawa, Japan in June of 1945, the last island to the Japanese mainland, leaving the war all but won for the US. They had the decision to bring the fight to the mainland or try to make Japan surrender, and while they might have limited additional deaths of American troops by not continuing the fight, they opted for the intentional harm of thousands of Japanese non-combatants in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. This is not permissible, for it causes more destruction than necessary, specifically taking the lives of those who have nothing to do with either side of the war effort, all for the benefit of the perpetrator. When looking at it from the perspective of one nation, it seems permissible, but one must consider the rights and welfare of human beings all around the world. Some nations do in fact need to be humbled and reminded that the world does not revolve around them, just in order for them to consider these universal human rights, and save lives instead of prolonging or increasing destruction. War as a whole is destructive, but is waged to achieve some kind of greater goal for a nation or a group, but one must consider Just War Theory when making wartime decisions, namely the principles of just cause and proportionality. If excessive force were to be used, there needs to be an actual reason such as a last line of self-defense or an impending consequence that seems to be far more grave than that of a weapon of brutality such as the atomic bomb. In terms of proportionality, the issue with excessive force is that it cannot be justified through the lens of Just War Theory because it stands with the intent to exceed and outdo the amount of harm that the perpetrator is currently or would possibly face. War stands be known as a corrupt evil when civilians’ lives are put at risk for conflicts that they have no part in, these wars are started, escalated, and often prolonged by those in power whose lives are at far less risk than those on the front lines of a warfront or civilians in the path of a weapon of mass destruction.
Dorchester Center, Massachusetts, US
Posts: 12
Reflections of the Ethics of the Atomic Bomb
In my own personal opinion, there is no acceptable case for the usage of overwhelming force that may harm civilians in war in the current time, especially the use of nuclear weapons when extreme collateral damage is expected, and the likeliness of radiation poisoning is known of. In the case of the United States’ use of two atomic bombs against Japan at the end of the Second World War, as unethical as their use on a civilian target was, there was no way of knowing the effects of radiation on people at the time, and I think that had the effects been known, there would have been more hesitation before their use. Therefore, in the American belief that an effect like radiation poisoning didn’t exist, the use of atomic bombs for the sake of preventing further bloodshed by both sides was justified. Had the atomic bombs not been used against Japan, there would have likely been further use of firebombing in Japanese cities as there had been in Tokyo, ultimately causing more unneeded deaths than there already had been. There also would have been heavy consideration for an invasion of the Japanese home islands by American soldiers, which would have eventually resulted in heavy civilian casualties to the Japanese as well as military casualties to both sides, as there already had been from American island hopping campaigns.
Additionally, although the use of atomic bombs is highly unethical, the existence of nuclear bombs and nuclear power plants has ultimately resulted in a much more cautious approach when two world powers come into some kind of conflict with one another. For example, had the concept of nuclear war not existed during the time of the Cold War, The United States and Russia likely would have gone to war at some point due to a lack of fear concerning the opposite country’s possession of atomic bombs.
Hyde Park, Massachusetts, US
Posts: 10
Reflections of Ethics of the Atomic Bomb
From a consequentialist point of view, I think it is permissible to use overwhelming force in war even when there is a chance of non-combatants being injured, when there seems to be no end to the war. Strategically, overwhelming force when a state has reached a weak point would likely secure the win for the country and save more lives compared to anything else. The overwhelming force would ensure that the nation does not try to fight again. Politically, I also think it is a better strategy than others because of the stark difference between defeating and surrendering. The Japanese had an ideology called the bushido which is very similar to the never back down, never give up motto. Due to this ideology, the Japanese would probably respond more negatively if they were defeated rather than surrendering knowing they lost fair and square. A defeat could cause retaliation and greater humiliation than what they face during the League of Nations conference. Relating this back to the usage of the atomic weapon in Japan, there would be two things that I would change about how they went about it. I wish there were a greater collective consensus about the usage of the atomic bomb. I feel as though the American government sugarcoated the magnitude of the weapon they dropped and painted it like it was the only option when it wasn’t. I think it was very undemocratic of the American government, and greater transparency would’ve made me feel more confident in their decision. The other thing I would change is the lack of research the Americans did on the bob and the after effects it would have on the people. It seems as though they want to use the Japanese people as their own test subject, and this irresponsibly led to the death of hundreds of Japanese people. It also led to the destruction of the land.
To sum up everything I said, due to ideology and motives, I believe that sometimes overwhelming force is permissible even if it may cause the potential harm of non-combatants. On top of that, I believe that the overwhelming force must be researched and deliberated upon for a long time before making such a hefty decision.