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I believe there are parallels between Hitler and Trump, but I don’t know if I completely agree that Trump is the new Hitler. Both have bleak diction and use vague statements that please the so called “forgotten” people of their nations. During the depression of Germany, people needed someone to blame and Hitler gave them the Jews as their problem, the Jews stole all their jobs and are monsters. While Trump appeased the blue collared white man who blames immigrants, especially Mexicans, for stealing the jobs they don’t put in any effort to find or want to do. Tim Snyder’s is not completely accurate since Trump has not done mass atrocities like Hitler has due to American democracy and social media to protest against things like his travel ban.


While reading the articles about Trump’s firs year, they parallel greatly to 1933 chronology. For example, the repeal of net neutrality can be similar to Nazi censorship of books once it implemented and both tyrants used fake news to insinuate their hate speech. The comparison between 2017 USA and 1933 Germany is valid, but controversial as Jews and other groups faced more severe consequences immediately. The Fox News Report even points out the differences between Trump and Hitlers regime, only that Trump is beginning to gain more grimaces because of his lack of diplomacy in serious issues while Hitler was rebuilding the economy for Germany people and dealing with their “problems”. The further we go into Trump’s presidency, I can see more of past repeating itself in the present. *cough cough* mass deportation of hard working and highly discriminated groups

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Originally posted by SpacePirate on March 05, 2018 00:18

I believe that Snyder makes some very good points about the similarities between Trump and Hitler such as Trump’s quote “civil liberties end when an attack on our safety begins” sounding very tyrannical and worrying. Clearly our current administration should not be underestimated or be met with indifference but although our president has these parallels, I don’t think it is likely that Trump will become Hitler 2.0.


The rhetoric against immigrants and Muslims, the filling of the cabinet with friends, and a terrifying idealized version of the future among other things are pretty similar to actions taken by Hitler. However the 1930s have one big difference to right now, people weren’t fighting back then. Since Trump has been elected there have been so many marches and walk-outs and shows of resistance and opposition that weren’t seen in the 30s. With all of this opposition, I can’t really imagine Trump using a tragedy to scapegoat Muslims or immigrants without a ton of backlash and protests and marches. Even with conservatives outnumbering liberals in the US right now, Trump’s approval rating has dropped down to 40% (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/). Like others have said before in this thread our Bill of Rights and the checks and balances of our government also protect us somewhat (even if our electoral college failed us by bringing Trump to power it’s still better than how Hindenburg brought Hitler in himself).


Nevertheless just because Trump won’t become an American Hitler doesn’t mean we’re off the hook. Heer’s point that we can’t use these comparisons to “nurture a reassuring myth that Trump is un-American” strikes me as a very important thing. Trump is still American and his views and his ability to rise to power despite having no experience in politics shows what our country is made of. And even when Trump is out of office, we still have to live in that America.

We may have to live in it, but it doesn’t have to be the one version of America. There are multiple versions of the American dream and a multitude of paths in life for every American, we can build a better America even if we have an orange for a present

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