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lightbulb89
Boston, Massachusetts , US
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Originally posted by mouse0 on December 03, 2024 20:31

Fascism manifests in society with the need for a solution. There must be a problem plaguing society, affecting the masses, whether it is economic, political, or social. One of the key characteristics of a fascist society would be the worship of the leader. This allows for a leader to not only have full authoritative control, but also an influence in the minds of the people. Depending on the characteristics of the leader, preferably that of charisma and charm, a strong leader is able to sway the views of society by promising a solution. Worship of the leader is especially harmful, as many will accept ideas presented by a fascist leader and honor them, possibly sacrificing their own moral code. However, fascism does not reveal itself immediately. People are more willing to accept such radical ideas if it is gradual. In the case of the Nazi party, the movement began as a nationalist-populist movement, appealing to the people by criticizing the dismissal of issues of ordinary people by the elite. A necessary characteristic for a fascist society is ultra-nationalism. This is defined as extreme nationalism, promoting the idea of one state or group of people above all else. Forms of exclusion is a notorious ideal of fascism, exemplified by the intense anti-semitism promoted by the Nazi party. Ultra-nationalism promotes xenophobia and attacks diversity, overall contributing to the division of society. This division is then intensified by offensive and problematic propaganda and laws that begin to infringe on the rights of the people. Fascist leaders utilize this development of hate to influence people. Hate can be used to create unity, increasing the support of the fascist leader and their party. Another necessary criteria for a fascist society would be anti-intellectualism. Intellectual bodies, like universities, are a threat to fascism, as in fascist regimes, only one opinion is acceptable, which is that of the ruler. In order to combat this, fascist regimes utilize propaganda to inaccurately portray dissent, as they cannot target freedom of speech, “Where speech is a right, propagandists cannot attack dissent head-on; instead they must represent it as something violent and oppressive…” (Stanley 37). With the lack of accurate views attacking fascism, fascist ideology becomes more appealing to the people. A prime example of such anti-intellectualism would be the Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests of the modern era. As protests around the U.S. commenced, it was often criticized and classified as “violent” and “rioting”. The next necessary characteristic for a fascist regime would be the glorification of the “past”. This encompasses past “ethnicity”, gender roles, and sexuality. This is another form of exclusion like ultra-nationalism, that targets more people within society. With the government glorifying the past, rejecting non-conforming people of society in regards to gender roles and sexuality, people are then invited to also be against them. This overall limits the rights of people in society, creating a stricter and controlling environment, lacking self-expression. Such exclusion acts have begun to rise in the contemporary, with nativist policies stemming from the radical right advancing in Europe. Such radical right parties display opposition to people of different religions, sexual orientation, and gender, which are in accordance with fascist traits displayed in the past. Extreme right parties are also present, enacting violence and aggression. However, such traits may not be enough to fully classify this modern era of Europe as fascist. It is defensible to identify and label certain characteristics of European societies, or even that of the United States as fascist, as they coincide with such characteristics of past fascist regimes.

I thought your paragraph showed the detailed analysis of the different traits of fascism and how it arises with societal problems. I agree with your thoughts of fascism emerging from a perceived crisis and how the population feeling marginalized and threatened can create a fertile ground for radical solutions. The worshiping of a leader, as you said, can be a big role in consolidating power as the individuals abandoned their grounds of critical faculties and submit themselves to this authoritarian control. The leader's ability to sway the masses with promises of resolving societal issues is central to this process. Additionally, I liked your discussion of the ultra-nationalism and exclusion being crucial. I thought that fascist ideologies are often relying on the creation of the "us versus them" mentality through nationalism or other forms of identity based-divisions. This division fosters an environment of hate, where groups are scapegoated and their rights are increasingly stripped away. The historical example of the Nazi Germany. Propaganda, as you had brought up, plays a significant role in the shaping of public perceptions and stifling dissent. The concept of anti-intellectualism is an important characteristic fascist regimes due to the intellectual and dissenters posting as a threat or the singular narrative that fascist leaders seek to promote leading to the singular reason of why intellectual freedom is often suppressed. I really liked your comparison of modern-day Black Lives Matter protest and how it highlighted the fact that the dissent can be misrepresented. Overall, the analysis can provide a thoughtful understanding to the key components of fascism and how they are able to manifest their way into contemporary society.

frozencoffee127
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Originally posted by Estalir on December 03, 2024 16:22

Facism is simply the usage of a negative situation. In a chaotic situation where everyone is unhappy facism thrives because any leader can simply become a fake beam of hope for the people and end up as a dictator whose word is law. However, simply because a leader is followed by many people that doesn’t make a society fascist. The king/queen of England are all followed and respected by thousands of people and yet no one calls them fascist. The difference is the environment the people are in. In a fascist society, the situation has to start becoming chaotic. That is the only way for it to blossom as in a peaceful society people are content and make better decisions. Furthermore the people have to be put in a situation where they have no choice but to follow the leader. Historic fascist societies there was always this fake freedom of choice that was manipulated by the people in power. They said that they could pick whoever they wanted and yet used tactics such as violence and singling those who didn’t vote for them out and these tactics caused the people to vote for them as they had no choice but to. When these officials were elected and accused of being unjust they are able to say that everyone is happy as everyone voted for them. In a fascist society the return to power is the most appealing thing. In fascist Germany they were kicked down so low after the war that when hitler promised to bring them back into power they were filled with hope and wanted nothing more than this power. Being back in control and being able to stand over others is something humans crave to a degree and that want is simply magnified by the situations fascist societies start in and are hence more easily manipulated. There are no nations in today's world that are experiencing facism. Facism is not something that can easily be started in today's world. While there will always be a couple people who genuinely want to become fascist and see it as a great idea, there will be an even bigger majority that would see the fault of it in today's world and that is because of how connected we are as a society nowadays. In the past no one revolted against the leaders because of how the society was structured so no one could revolt unless they wanted to die and that fear made everyone listen. However, in today's world that fear is negligible as people can now post and agree with other people anonymously. Simply knowing that there are those who are also not happy with the way the society is already causes a crack in the possibility of a fascist society as a fascist society is only as strong as its belief in the people in. So having even a small amount of people not believe in it is enough to cause it to become considerably weaker and the weaker it gets the less it will be able to accomplish its “promise” and less and less people will want to follow that society.

Hey Estalir! Great job on your response! I agree with a lot of what you said, because fascism is one of those things that can really only spawn out of a negative situation, and so your piece about the king/queen of England drove that point home. It was a very compelling point and made me think about it a lot more deeply. Another thing that you said that really stood out to me was when you said that “a fascist society is only as strong as its belief in the people.” Part of this has to do with the mob mentality of the group of people, as well as the belief of the leader, which is why fascism can’t be easily started in today’s world, as you said. I agree with you, as well, that there are cracks in society because not everyone is happy with the way that societies are functioning, and so it is important to recognize this. Overall, your response was very insightful and really spoke to the idea of modern fascism. I think it could have been powerful to talk about some nations that are pushing the line of fascism to strengthen the argument, but again, great job!

Estalir
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Posts: 8

Fascism in the Modern Age

Originally posted by haven3 on December 03, 2024 13:33

Fascism grows because of two factors, the external circumstances, and the internal issues. For the first, things such as external threats or total war create an environment where the people and the government are susceptible to fascist ideologies. This side of the manifestation of fascism is incredibly dangerous because these situations can occur rapidly and since it has been many years since world war two where many nations were in total war mode, it is difficult to predict how countries will react in that situation and if they will turn towards fascism. On the other side, internal issues, such as political and economic instability, hatred, or unjust policies can lead to the rise of fascism and a power shift to fascist leaders. Frequently nations that have internal turmoil find dramatic shifts in politics appealing and can be persuaded to fascism or communism. When there are issues internally people desire something new and different to their current state, not even because they think it will work, solely because they want a change. Persuasive leaders can harness this state of chaos and guide the people either to safety or deeper into the chaos.

Nevertheless, it is difficult to draw the line between fascist characteristics being shown in societies and a fully fascist society but certain characteristics such as the harsh distinction of ingroups and outgroups and the total power of the leaders must be present to have a society be truly fascist. Hatred and fear are tools that fascist leaders use to keep control over their subjects. Creating various out groups unites the people of a society through hatred which makes it easier for the leaders to make sure they have all the power and that the subjects follow the leader. Similarly the idea of internal enemies, such as spies or enemies of the state, forces the subjects into a constant state of terror where no one will rebel for fear of being killed or sent away. Another characteristic of fascist societies that must be present for a society to be fascist is the total power of the leader. The leaders of fascist societies must have no one that they have to listen to before they make their decisions, they must have no other opposing political parties, and they must be able to do whatever they desire.

Certain parts of fascist ideology are appealing to both leaders and citizens such as nationalism and militarism. The principles of nationalism and militarism are not inherently bad, in fact many leaders try to push their society towards nationalism and militarism, having a nation of people that are proud of their country and are willing to die for it along with having a strong military that can both protect and prosper the nations are traits of a strong society. Additionally, as mentioned previously, in a time of chaos normal citizens desire stability and one leader that can make the decisions seems desirable for nations with insatiable political systems. However, these characteristics can turn bad rapidly and coupled with other characteristics of fascism can result in horrible endings.

I like how you separated facism into both external and internal issues. I agree with this idea because there are many things that make a society fascist, and many things that need to happen for it to become fully fascist and this separation helps bring light to the multiple issues that are often overlooked when deciding if a society is fascist or not. Much like this post many posts talk about how in many, if not all, fascist societies the people are a core to making it fascist. Once the people are unhappy and angry, any leader with malicious intents can take control and manipulate that society into becoming fascist. Just like you said, persuasive leaders are also a core component in making a society facist because only with that kind of leader is a society able to be convinced into following a whole new set of rules and expectations. I also agree that some countries and places simply have fascist characteristics rather than being actually fascist, and people sometimes do not see that. Overall I think we have pretty similar views and agree on what makes a society fascist verses simply having fascist features. I like how you organized your ideas and built upon them with examples.

ChooseKindness20
Boston, MA, US
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Fascism appears in societies in times of severe crisis and panic. The idea of unification and stability pushes forward what is firstly seen as some kind of savior or light; it is seen as the way out of dilemmas which nations have a tendency to be susceptible to at times. This ties into the characteristics that are incorporated with fascist societies. Fascism is fueled by times of crisis, using three main attributes, “authoritarian submission, conventionalism, and authoritarian aggression” (Comparitive Civilizations Review). These characteristics are possible as people commonly follow patterns in a group, including mob mentality, “Us vs. Them,” group think, and so on. An accumulation of followers whilst putting a blind eye to resistance exacerbates the growth of fascism. The term fascism mostly aligns with the worship of a leader, paired with ultranationalism which explains why these movements tend to form when society appears to be crumbling, since people tend to take pride in their nation and aspire for greatness especially during rough patches.

Additionally, some scapegoat, enemy, or liability must be present in a fascist regime as it serves as a starting point to regain confidence and control. The idea of having any amount of authority by putting blame on an “enemy,” alleviates stress and fear for individuals because it allows a distraction to overpower the actual predicament; it is an illusion targeted to hide the root internal issues within a nation. This distraction, or possibility of progress and prosperity becomes enticing and alluring, especially to those in worse situations. Another overlooked factor is that groups in these more dire conditions have a higher susceptibility to influence. This tendency to be swayed is also traced back to a person’s self-confidence or the social identity theory. Potent leader figures who already possess persuasive qualities also have an advantage or leverage on those with lower self assurance because they are more likely to conform or assimilate into another’s movements to seek purpose or belonging. Another pattern with fascism is anti-intellectualism, as only one ideology is accepted and taught, stripping away other perspectives and views. This is why propaganda is so prevalent in the rise of fascism since that is another tactic utilized to conform masses.

Many often tether fascism with far right wingers because of the severed divide that can accompany it. This is an over generalization as “not all right-wing authoritarians are fascists nor are all authoritarian personalities, but both in the contemporary United States are prone to conspiracy theories and those who are zealous may take direct actions against a democracy” (Comparative Civilizations Review). Specifically in the United States, I would not say we are to the extent of fascism but I also cannot deny that history can and does repeat itself, making that idea not completely absurd. The reality is that there are always problems within any nation but simply pushing on labels without actually actively putting in efforts to address and fix the issues is not the right approach. Although there is no easy solution, referencing far-right winged individuals or even Donald Trump as fascist only further divides people and causes conflict which is why it is not effective or helpful. Ultimately avoiding fascism comes down to spreading awareness and being properly educated, maintaining democracy, and having the right of free will and expression.

ChooseKindness20
Boston, MA, US
Posts: 7

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Originally posted by haven3 on December 03, 2024 13:33

Fascism grows because of two factors, the external circumstances, and the internal issues. For the first, things such as external threats or total war create an environment where the people and the government are susceptible to fascist ideologies. This side of the manifestation of fascism is incredibly dangerous because these situations can occur rapidly and since it has been many years since world war two where many nations were in total war mode, it is difficult to predict how countries will react in that situation and if they will turn towards fascism. On the other side, internal issues, such as political and economic instability, hatred, or unjust policies can lead to the rise of fascism and a power shift to fascist leaders. Frequently nations that have internal turmoil find dramatic shifts in politics appealing and can be persuaded to fascism or communism. When there are issues internally people desire something new and different to their current state, not even because they think it will work, solely because they want a change. Persuasive leaders can harness this state of chaos and guide the people either to safety or deeper into the chaos.

Nevertheless, it is difficult to draw the line between fascist characteristics being shown in societies and a fully fascist society but certain characteristics such as the harsh distinction of ingroups and outgroups and the total power of the leaders must be present to have a society be truly fascist. Hatred and fear are tools that fascist leaders use to keep control over their subjects. Creating various out groups unites the people of a society through hatred which makes it easier for the leaders to make sure they have all the power and that the subjects follow the leader. Similarly the idea of internal enemies, such as spies or enemies of the state, forces the subjects into a constant state of terror where no one will rebel for fear of being killed or sent away. Another characteristic of fascist societies that must be present for a society to be fascist is the total power of the leader. The leaders of fascist societies must have no one that they have to listen to before they make their decisions, they must have no other opposing political parties, and they must be able to do whatever they desire.

Certain parts of fascist ideology are appealing to both leaders and citizens such as nationalism and militarism. The principles of nationalism and militarism are not inherently bad, in fact many leaders try to push their society towards nationalism and militarism, having a nation of people that are proud of their country and are willing to die for it along with having a strong military that can both protect and prosper the nations are traits of a strong society. Additionally, as mentioned previously, in a time of chaos normal citizens desire stability and one leader that can make the decisions seems desirable for nations with insatiable political systems. However, these characteristics can turn bad rapidly and coupled with other characteristics of fascism can result in horrible endings.

Hello haven3!


Your response was very well written, and I admired your inclusive explanation of the rise of fascism as well as the different complex factors that are involved with them. Similar to other posts, your distinction between fascist characteristics and an actual fully fascist society is crucial when discussing heavy serious topics like this. Understanding how fascism comes about and the warning signs can spread awareness, thus further preventing future occurrences from happening. I agree that some characteristics like nationalism or militarism are not simply inherently bad, but when brought to an extreme level, it can be dangerous. Extreme pride at a large scale, especially during unfavorable times, with this “Us vs. Them” mentality, provides a path to destruction against other groups of people as seen in Nazi Germany. I would have preferred a deeper explanation in the last paragraph about why the establishment of one leader during these times of crisis could quickly end in disastrous repercussions. It would have also been beneficial to apply some of the past learnt psychological theories in your response as they also contribute to and exacerbate rise of fascism. I definitely agree with the idea that internal and external issues within a nation are some of the biggest contributors to the formation of fascist regimes. I concur with your perspectives and I was very glad to have indulged in your writing.

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